{"id":16490,"date":"2016-04-28T08:00:28","date_gmt":"2016-04-28T12:00:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/simpleprogrammer.com\/?p=16490"},"modified":"2023-03-16T05:09:13","modified_gmt":"2023-03-16T09:09:13","slug":"need-learn-math-programmer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/simpleprogrammer.com\/need-learn-math-programmer\/","title":{"rendered":"Do You Need To Learn Math To Be A Programmer?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This was a very interesting question I got from one of Simple Programmer readers&#8230; Do you need to learn math to be a programmer?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Is math really that necessary for programmers? Will you be a bad programmer if you don&#8217;t know math? In what ways math can help you as a programmer and developer?&nbsp;Watch this video to find out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Math In Programming  Necessary Or Not\" width=\"720\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JckWdRNkPHA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Transcript From Video:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>John:&nbsp;<\/strong>Hey, what\u2019s up, John Sonmez from <a href=\"https:\/\/simpleprogrammer.com\">simpleprogrammer.com<\/a>. I got this question from Nicholas about math and software development. I thought this was an interesting one here. He says, \u201cThank you so much for all your great content and hard work. Simple Programmer is helping me get a better handle on what I want to do with my career as well as becoming more mindful of financial planning and many other aspects which I consider to be important for a healthy, enjoyable life. Here\u2019s a simple and yet not so obviously frequently asked question: How much math do you need as a programmer?\u201d He says, \u201cI\u2019ve been reading a lot about this subject especially as I choose courses at a university. I read an article that pointed out that computer science and programming were essentially created out of the need for heavy duty computation in hard sciences especially math, think Alonzo Church and Alan Turing, but over the years it has evolved to include a much larger breadth of subjects which require far less math at least in the programming end.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m going to summarize a little bit here, but essentially he goes on to ask about really do you need math when you\u2019re doing things like working on frameworks in programming in general today and how far do you need the math to go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Honestly, I would say that it\u2019s important to have some kind of background in math. You should at least know algebra because a lot of variables in programming is going to be similar in some regards to algebra. If you know some calculus then you\u2019re going to be able to solve problems in a way that\u2019s probably a lot more efficient than a lot of people because\u2014the thing is, like if you don\u2019t know calculus you\u2019re not going to recognize the type of problems, algorithm type of problems that exists in the world\u2014like when you know calculus and you know it well you\u2019re going to see this and you\u2019re going to say, \u201cOh this is a max-min problem\u201d and you\u2019re going to identify that and you\u2019re going to say, \u201cThere\u2019s a formula. There\u2019s a way to calculate this.\u201d Whereas if you don\u2019t know it you\u2019re not even going to realize that that solution exists and you\u2019re going to try to hack together some kind of solution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s sort of like\u2014so math in that regards is sort of like learning design patterns. Design patterns in programming can help you because you recognize a certain circumstance and you say, \u201cOh, this is just like\u2014this is observer pattern and I can just apply this pattern\u201d and it gives you sort of a short cut.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, again, this is going to depend on where you\u2019re programming, what type of thing you\u2019re doing. If you\u2019re doing a lot of web based work where you\u2019re doing a lot of frontend work, you\u2019re probably not going to hit those types of problems as much, although you may sometimes. But if you\u2019re doing a lot with the user interface and the design and passing data down to a database doing CRUD type of applications, probably math isn\u2019t going to be so important, but I guarantee if you\u2019re working on a real time operating system or you\u2019re doing something with image processing or something that\u2019s going to require some heavy algorithmic computations that math is going to play a lot bigger part.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It really, really depends on where you go with it. It can\u2019t hurt to have a high level of math. If I were to\u2014even if I were to self study I would\u2014and become a programmer, I would want to self study definitely algebra, I\u2019d want to know calculus and I\u2019d want to know some discreet and foundational math because having the logic aspect of it, discreet and foundational math really gives you the logic aspect of it. That\u2019s going to help you a lot because a lot of programming is logic and ands and ors and conditions so that\u2019s going to help you. It\u2019s not required but, again, that would help you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I guess the long and short of it is basically this, \u201cNo, you don\u2019t really need math. You can be a programmer, a software developer. There\u2019s plenty of software that you can develop without strong math skills, but having it is going to help you. It\u2019s like another tool in your tool belt. It\u2019s not an absolute requirement but there\u2019s going to be certain places where something could have taken you 20 hours to write this code, to solve this problem, but because you know calculus and you realized that this is a max-min problem or whatever it is or finding the area type of problem, you can instantly apply this and have this done in an hour. It\u2019s going to save you the 19 hours in those cases.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s up to you to decide how deep to go with that. What you become as a software developer, like I said, what technology you choose, where you decide to work is going to determine that. <a href=\"https:\/\/simpleprogrammer.com\/learning-programming-teaching-yourself\/\">You can always learn on your own<\/a> too, math. There are things like Con Economy now which is really good resource for learning math especially advanced math. You can learn on your own. If you don\u2019t like the kind of going to school and doing the college textbook math, that\u2019s fine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t want to say\u2014what I want to make sure that I don\u2019t say is that, \u201cOh, if you can\u2019t cut it in college math then you can\u2019t be a programmer\u201d because that I want to dispel. That\u2019s not true. If you can\u2019t cut it in college math, okay, fine. If you still want to be a programmer, fine, you can do it, but don\u2019t ignore math if you can do it. Even if you just have a cursory level knowledge, even if you can just like identifying the problems, identifying those algorithms to realize that there\u2019s a mathematical solution that someone\u2019s already solved this. If you don\u2019t know how to solve it, you can always look it up, right? You don\u2019t have to have all the equations memorized.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I first started out in the field, I had this book, this fat book. I forgot what it\u2019s called, it\u2019s like the Encyclopedia of Math or something. It had every single equation. I worked in image processing a lot with printers and stuff so there would always be like the kind of problems and I\u2019d look it up. I know about it because I had enough knowledge in math. I don\u2019t remember the equation but I would go and look it up and then I could solve the problem. This was before you google anything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anyway, good question. Hopefully you found this useful. If you found this useful, subscribe to the channel. All right. Talk to you next time. Take care.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This was a very interesting question I got from one of Simple Programmer readers&#8230; Do you need to learn math to be a programmer? Is math really that necessary for programmers? Will you be a bad programmer if you don&#8217;t know math? 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